Thursday, November 29, 2012

How F'd is the Card Player Tournament Website?


  • Chat Transcript with melvin of General Support‏

melvin (melvin@evansindia.com)
8:20 AM

To: fliphall@msn.com

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Hello phil hall,
 
 
 
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Question: Hello, I won the card player direct qualifier 11/28 7:45 p.m. tournament.  I started with 187577 points.1st prize, 49,207 pts.not showing up yet
 
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melvin:
 
Please allow me a moment to review your concern.
 
 
 
melvin:
 
 Thank you for waiting.
 
 
 
melvin:
 
We show you finished 1st in the Card Player Cruise Direct Qualifier & won an invite to the Card Player Cruise Championship.The points are not awarded for this tourney.
 
 
 
phil hall:
 
Why does it show points for final table then?
 
 
 
phil hall:
 
when you look at tournament prizes
 
 
 
melvin:
 
We apologize for the inconvenience. Please take a screen shot of this and send us the screen shot. We will investigate.
 
 
 
phil hall:
 
it clearly stated 49,207 points for 1st
 
 
 
phil hall:
 
i can't take a screen shot
 
 
 
phil hall:
 
of something already done
 
 
 
phil hall:
 
look at any tournament similar to this that is active now.
 
 
 
phil hall:
 
This keeps happening.  You need to clean up the software program if you are not going to award points, then don't show that you are.....
 
 
 
phil hall:
 
please investigate and email back to me....
 
 
 
melvin:
 
We need screen shot to investigate this. Please send a screen shot to support@zenentertainment.com
 
 
 
phil hall:
 
again, how can i take a screen shot of something that no longer exists?  
 
 
 
melvin:
 
If you face same problem next time. Please send a screen shot.
 
 
 
phil hall:
 
Please take some responsibility for your own programming and investigate.
 
 
 
melvin:
 
Sure
 
 
 
phil hall:
 
I will in the future, but this is just not right.
 
 
 
melvin:
 
I apologize, I'll let the tech team know about this.  
 
 
 
phil hall:
 
How do you expect players to continue if they do not trust your integrity?  We all know about the issues of other sites.   
 
 
 
phil hall:
 
Thank you.
 
 
 
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Wednesday, November 28, 2012

Solving The $2-20 Puzzle

One of my biggest frustrations the past year is going from a winning 3/6 and 4/8 game player to being a losing $2/20 player.  The losses are somewhat bigger, and when I do win, it is generally for smaller amounts.  What to do, what to do?  I have tried several different approaches, and sometimes they work o.k., and some go horribly wrong.  I try to watch the winning players and figure out why they are winning.  The losing players are easy.  In general, here are my observations, in the hope that my loyal & disturbed follower might find some useful tidbit of information.

Tight vs. Loose.
The traditional wisdom states that you should "play loose in a tight game, and tight in a loose game".  I think that this is probably the bedrock of good play in this game.  The problem is that sometimes it is difficult to figure which game you are playing in.  A quick example:  I was playing "Randy tight" in a moderately tight game.  My raises, which were damned few, were met with folds most of the time.  Inexplicably, I raised fairly big (maybe to $10) with aces, and the big blind decides to call heads up with garbage.  Now, here is a situation where you are playing heads up, out of position with garbage against a hand which figures to be ahead of you 100% of the time.  On one hand, you have to love that call, but then he flops a full house and I lose $80.  How could this have been prevented?  I will discuss later.
In general, I would describe the game as loose most of the time.  How else can you explain 7 or 8 players to a flop.  Lots of limping, then if a late position player raises, everyone calls.  This is the worst thing that can happen to a strong preflop hand.  Suddenly, the pot has swelled, and even $20 bets can provide decent odds for calling on both immediate and implied odds.  Now, there are lots of players, lots of draws, and a couple of made hands with bottom & middle pairs.  Even small pairs may join the war on the dream of their 2 outer.  Let's look at the pot:  6 limpers (counting the small blind) = $11, you raise to $10, which makes it $21 to the small blind, who folds.  The big blind, stubborn fellow, calls which now makes the pot $31 to the first limper (who should have one of the stronger hands out there since it takes a pretty strong one to limp in early position) who calls.  Now it is $41 to the next limper now getting 4/1 on his money.  Tempting to call with his pair of 2's "just in case he gets lucky".  The next two are no-brainers getting 5/1 & 6/1 on their money.  Any two cards time.  We now have a $71 pot (less rake), and the most you can bet is $20, giving any caller 3.5/1 on their money.  Is it any wonder it is difficult to win?  And of course, the more who call the first bet provide even better odds to the others, with improving odds on later streets.  Youch!!!!

So, what do you do with the big hand in late position with tons of limpers?  One answer is to raise big, like $20 big.  This will elicit folds from nearly all players and at least give you heads up or 3/way action with position and the best hand.  Much better.  If everyone folds, you have won $10 (after toke), which is far better than minimum wage.  Another possible strategy is to just call, not raise if you know that a middle size raise will not thin the herd.  Now, if the middle or top pair bets, you can raise to isolate if he is a late position player, or re-evaluate your hand if it goes raise, call, re-raise, etc.  Aces may be headed for the muck if you are wise beyond your years.     

In a very tight game, which I actually prefer, it is possible to raise more often with a wider range in various positions.  Due to the tightness of the players, their range is much more defined than in a loose game.  If I raise from the button with my suited connectors, or small pair (which I will raise with very often from this spot)  and only Randy, Bob F. and Bob P. call, then I know that I have to connect very strongly or my hand is headed for the muck if there is any calling from my continuation bet (which in a tight game, I will nearly always do).  It is possible to bluff in any game, but easier in a tight one.  Loose players will call with any pair or any draw, and usually with overcards.  Tight players will release those 3's when they miss the flop.

This brings up the next topic:  Bluffing

In general, don't.  But, be prepared to call some players light, as there is sometimes a lot of bluffing. Pay attention to bet sizing.  Some players will overbet the pot when they bluff or semi-bluff draws.  I have won some pretty good pots through bluffs, but have totally given up the practice of running a bluff all the way....preflop to river.  Just too expensive given the calling station nature of the game.

Monte Board Effect

One of the main reasons that the Moose game is such a colossal suck out bad game is the presence of the Monte Carlo board & to some extent, the high hand board.  Both of these are very appealing to the "gambler", not the good poker player.  Consider that the $1. drop is lost money down the rathole for most players (I say that despite having "won" more than $2500 this year).  Most of my wins have been given back in session losses and hey with the new system I have to pay taxes on all the money.

What the monte & high hand board does is encourage the gamblers to play hands better mucked.  Yes, 2/6 suited will make a straight flush, but I play a heck of a lot and can count my straight flushes on two hands.  Where it hurts you is they incorrectly call your preflop raise and hit paydirt with a 2/2/7 flop which cracks your aces.  The high hand encourages the play of weak aces, which is o.k. against my strong ace unless they hit their kicker, or against my  k/k when they hit their 3-outer ace.  Again, mixed blessing to get their call, and overall they lose with these hands, but in the meantime they cause you great variance.  My good friend, Bob P. says he hasn't hit a straight all year with suited connectors.  And, as a special bonus when you hit your flush you are usually behind a big flush.

Flushmasters

This brings me to the next subject, the players who will play ATC suited cards.  Kids, they just haven't looked at the stats.  Being suited only adds a little benefit to the hand.  My strategy is to muck them unless in a blind with lots of limpers (or sometimes on the button), but always with at least connection and/or high card strength.  So, KQ, J, 10, suited, good to go.  Q/2 suited, not so much.  Again, where the flushmasters hurt you is when they flop their random 2 pair, or trip hands and it is very hard to put them on it.  My best advice is watch the hands they show down and classify them as flushmasters or acemasters and play accordingly.

Checking it Down

Oh, the stories I can tell about this.  Suffice it to say, have written about this before, but I am checking it down with damn few people these days.  This is costing me money, but even heads up, you cannot get people off draws.  In a legitimate no-limit game it would be easy to do so.  In the spread game, no.  I have seen a couple of regulars who will call a $20 preflop raise, heads up and then check it down with you.  About 1/2 the time they will draw out on you, so net/net there is no profit for you.  I would prefer they fold, and then go on to the next hand.

Well, don't know if there is any "new" information here, but suffice it to say, I have still not figured this game out.  All I can do is try to minimize my losses and "play the heaters".

  

Saturday, November 24, 2012

Why I Didn't Deal at The Legion Last Night



Sitting around yesterday, "practicing" online for the Legion tournament I ended up getting very deep in 3 tournaments.  Playing heads up for the one seat in a $500 tournament we went back and forth forever, but my luck finally prevailed when I flopped two pair and he flopped an open ender with a flush draw.  Betting big, he called and hit his straight on the turn.  Unbelievably I hit my full house on the river. Hooray for me!

Anyway, not really watching the clock pictured above, I sat around chatting with wifey for a bit and even though had volunteered for dealing duty felt no urge to leave, even though it started at 7:00 and the clock said 7:05.  Why you ask?  We had some discussion about the correctness of the time, and I had noticed that it was an hour fast (never got reset from "fall back" daylight time).  But, had also not noticed that wifey had reset it.  Oops.  Fortunately decided to go to the Legion "early" and was totally surprised to walk in and see the tournament in full action.  After profusely apologizing to Mary, the organizer, I took my seat, sheepishly.

There were some real rookies at my table, which always makes things interesting.  I watched a very nervous, very pretty young lady who admitted to "reviewing hold 'em rules, etc on the drive there" and had in her possession a cheat sheet on what beats what totally rack up chips merely calling with the immortals.  Anyone else would have knocked two players out.  Anyway, she had accumulated some chips, which she cheerfully refunded at every opportunity with horrible calls.  So, I won a couple of pots and had about the same number of chips when this hand came up.  Sitting 2 under the gun, the UTG player, an Asian kid I had never seen before with face tattoos and seemingly good poker skills raised to 3 times the blinds.  I looked down to discover pocket aces.  I re-raised 3 times his bet to isolate, and the lady comes along too.  The flop was A/Q/10, and the UTG bets all-in, which I re-raised all-in.  The lady calls.  He shows Q/J for second pair plus a gutshot.  She has Q/10 for 2 pair which is drawing dead.  My aces hold up and eliminate both players.

After donking off about a third of my chips to loose callers who cannot lay a hand down, I settle down, tighten up and make the final table in good chip condition.  I read a game changing email this week about tournaments.  It told the story of a couple who attended a poker training camp because they never cashed in tournaments.  After attending, they were happy to report that they were now cashing consistently, but not winning.  Their coach told them that was bad news.  The math of it works out that unless you win tournaments, you will usually be a net loser.  One $1000 win is a lot of buy-ins which you usually never make up with 4th place finishes.

Anyway, I decided to play with more aggression and the attitude that one big win is worth more than a lot of little wins.  Happy to report that I chopped 3 ways last night ($280 each on a $40 buyin, less $25 dealer tip, netting $215).  This was despite a late in the game disastrous hand becoming the short stack (A/4 vs my 7/7).  Ended up chip leader (I think....it was very close).  With 2/4000 blinds and only $65000 in chips in play no-one had more that 5 big blinds.  Excellent decision by us to chop as luck now the only factor.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012

There Are Beats, Then There Are Beats




Playing in a Card Player freeroll for $100 this morning I gave a super bad beat, then received one (Poker Karma).  The first one, I called an all-in raise with my K/Q offsuit.  Horrible call, tell me about it.  The flop was A/A/K with the other player having an ace/jack, I think.  The turn,king.  The river, case king for quads.  Double ouch one outer4.

My karmic revenge came with playing 2/5 (suited!!!) in the small blind with one limper.  The flop was 2/2/A.  I naturally checked, the limper bet with his A/J, I reraised, he went all-in, I called.  The turn was an ace and I was eliminated in 78th place out of 650 players.  Ouchy 2 outer!

 

Sunday, November 18, 2012

Bad Beats






Now, here is a topic we can all sink our teeth into.  I have been accused in the past of boring people with stories of my bad beats.  I can name names, but choose not to.  I plead guilty as charged, sir!  Ultimately, poker at its very core is all about bad beats.  You start with the best hand (think aces), and then some idiot calls you with 8/2 offsuit and flops a full house.  Bad Beat!  Idiot!  Fonk!!!

But when you look a little closer, you come to realize the truth about the beat, and about poker.  IT IS ALL ABOUT GETTING YOUR MONEY IN GOOD.  IT IS ALL ABOUT GETTING WORSE HANDS TO CALL.  IT IS ALL ABOUT SELECTING BETTER STARTING HANDS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I read a very powerful statement recently.  It said, "Good players receive bad beats.  Bad players give them".  Wow, when you look at it that way it really underlines the importance of being on the receiving end.  Honestly, it does!  

The "lesson" you must learn to take away from your poker session is this:  When you give a bad beat to someone you got your money in with the worst of it and got lucky.  Where you must learn from this is two-fold.  First, you must learn that what luck served you does not license you to push your luck again with those same "lucky cards".  Just because you flopped quads with your pocket 2's against kings doesn't mean that the next time someone raises big or goes all-in that you need to try to re-create history by calling them with your deuces.  You got lucky once with your two outer, but it was a donk call.

The other lesson here is to not place some mystical value on a hand and start playing it because you think it is your special lucky hand.
I would be willing to bet that lots more money has been lost by players who always play (fill in the blank) than has been won by them.  Bad starting cards are always bad, even if they have won big pots for you or have a name, or are suited, etc.  Remember that hold 'em is a game of position, chip strength and card strength.  That 7/2 can be a powerhouse if you have the chips, position, and table image.  Or, if you are in an unraised blind and flop huge.  Otherwise, it is the worst starting hand in poker.  If you play it, and win due to a great flop and crack aces....you are the bad player who got lucky....and to make matters worse, you have just gotten positive reinforcement on your play, which can lead to more bad play in the future.

So, you gotta ask yourself.  Would you rather be the guy with aces or with deuces?





Saturday, November 17, 2012

Dealing at the Legion





Another Friday night dealing at the American Legion.  Fortunately, this time it is table 3 which is the first to break down.  Memorable hand dealt:  player 1 pocket 8's, player 2 pocket 5's, player 3 pocket 3's.  Flop is 8/5/3.  Pocket 5's leads the betting and everyone calls.  I still don't understand why there was never an all-in but it was a very large pot and the 8's won.  You don't see set over set over set very often.

When my table broke down was just a little over starting chip stack.   Playing snug, I make the final table but one of the short stacks.  A few double ups and back in contention.  With 5 players remaining (paid 6) and in the money I pick up 10/10 on button.  All-in called by small blind with A/10....not a good call for him until the ace spikes.  Now short stacked I triple up but still the short stack.  Blind vs. blind I have 7/2.  Small blind limps in with 10/5 and on a flop of 2/5/x he bets, I call and am gone in 5th place for a $77 win (less 40 for buy-in, netting $30 after tip).  I also get $14 in dealer tips, so a total win of $44. 

Player who called my shove chops 1st & 2nd with another player, who stiffs the dealers.  

Friday, November 16, 2012

All Your Base

This used to be my favorite on the computer.


Saturday, November 10, 2012

Wildhorse Roundup- A Brief History



I have been playing at least one event at the roundups for the past 5 years.  My results have been dismal.  I like to call it the "annual $200 buffet" as that is my usual benefit from it.  I would like to run through my last hands played to the best of my memory to illustrate the beats I have taken.

Q/10-  Turned straight beaten by full house on river  (2 times)
Q/10- 2 pair beaten by straight on the river (yes, I know quit playing Q/10)
A/A- Beaten by A/J on river (flush)
A/K- Beaten by A/Q
Beaten in horse tournament on razz round with nearly identical hands

Anyway, you get the idea.  Last night was my best ever showing by lasting until 7:30 (started at noon).  There were 560 players and came in around 150th.  I was doing well at my table, but it was tight and only one elimination, so not a lot of chips in play.  Got moved to a table with very aggressive players who had a lot more chips.  Short stacked, was forced to call all-in with 9/9.  Raiser had K/K and I was done.  I felt that I played well with a couple of lapses, but overall did not make any major mistakes..  Just went card dead at the wrong time.

Tuesday, November 6, 2012

Hands I Luv

O.K., I have discussed hands that I hate, now it is time to talk about the ones I love.  This shouldn't take long.

Illustration of a Pinup Couple Dressed as a King and Queen Holding Hands Stock Photo - 8704931

Surprisingly, I think my current favorite is KQ suited.  The "royal couple" as it is called seems to win an inordinately large percentage of the time.  Even though it is a sometimes dominated hand, with AQ and AK coming to mind, it will make two straights, not one, and the flush you make with it is usually good.  Two pair is great with this hand, and usually spells doom for AK or AQ when you nail the flop.

Eighty Nine : Number 89 embossed or carved from marble placed on a matching marble base Stock Photo

For reasons known only to my analyst, another prohibitive favorite is 8/9 suited.  For some reason this hand does well for me, and I sometimes play it out of position, or with a raise.  Goodness knows it can be dominated easily, so one pair hands are not usually good.  However, many people will put a lot of chips in with their 6/7 suited (which I also like), or 10/J.  If they "nail" the flop i.e. two pair, I like my chances. 





Favorite pair, the snowmen (in Omaha mostly).  Strangely, it is not aces, kings, queens, etc.  For some unknown cosmic reason I seem to hit my pocket 8's for a set more often than not.  Weird, huh?  This is weird too, just as I am typing this involved in tournament and guess what I have?  Yes!!  Just won, board double paired with 551010 and ace on river.  Bet it the whole way.  Way to go little buddies.



Now, you may find this a bit weird, but a few years ago this was my favorite preflop raising hand.  Had a couple of hard and fast rules.  #1 rule, had to be first action after blinds.  #2 rule, had to be offsuit so no one could accuse me of playing it because it was suited.  Won some monster pots in the old 4/8 game either from bluffs when the flop had an ace, or when I nailed the flop.  No one ever sees it coming.

That's it for now.  Comment about your favorites.  As you can see, logic has little to do with it.



Saturday, November 3, 2012

Domination



O.K., I am not talking about this kind of domination, but could if you prefer.  What I am referring to is a hand which has a shared rank, but one hand has a bigger kicker.  Thus, hitting your top card is a loser for you, giving you only 3 outs and poor prospects.  Tonight playing in a $25 tournament online I kept getting snapped by hands that I dominated.  I lost a big chunk of chips to KJ with my AJ.  Then, lost again to a QJ vs my AQ for all of my chips when we were down to 15 players (started with 476).  This particular player that knocked me out had lost a large pot to a hand that he had dominated (AK vs. KJ), then got those chips back plus mine when the KJ guy went all-in with 10/10 and I re-raised with my AQ.  How you get that many chips in the pot late in the tournament with QJ puzzles me, but I am the guy sitting out.  He was the original raiser too, so I called because of the size of the pot with the other player's push.  Suspected he was weak and just tried to isolate the other player.  He had raised to 6,000 in a 4000 pot (1,000/2,000 blinds plus $100 antes.  The reraiser had 33,000, and I had over 40,000.  I think he started with about 60K.  I would have lost anyway, but still would have had some chips had that guy folded.

Again, my point is:  stay out of big pots with easily dominated hands.  I probably should have folded my AQ as that is one of the highest dominated possibility hands, but just felt that I had a good read on the situation.  Had I suspected the original raiser would call, would probably fold AQ.